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and humans

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like you

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welcome to the center of light radio

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with spiritual teacher intuitive

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musician composer and best-selling

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author of the Divine Principle anchoring

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heaven on earth your host Keith

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Anthony Blanchard coast-to-coast Botibol

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all around the world on the internet

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thanks to the Marvel of Technology I am

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coming at you live from a literal guest

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house in Memphis Tennessee this is Keith

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Anthony Blanche and you're listening to

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sinner of light radio center of divine

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in folman and reinforcements the

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transformation station and radio for the

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soul metaphysics returns to Memphis

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August 5th and 6th at the Agra

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metaphysical fair Memphis metaphysical

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fair will play host to psychic mediums

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twenty workshops over the two days

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they're going to love all the gemstones

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and all that really cool stuff so

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they're going to be parked occupied

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while you do your spiritual mental

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workshops range from zero to ten dollars

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each vendor booths are still available

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you could visit Memphis metaphysical

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dot-com for more information Kenneth

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pass the recent guests on center of

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light radio 10,000 when he was a little

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woods for a hike and they were abducted

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they were brought back listen to this I

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believe the cat brought back 10,000

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prophecy rock and there's some picture

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glyphs on the rock Kenneth says he is

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one of those children coming out of the

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spaceship while he was on this two-year

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him off so he took some of the

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technology and hid it the gig is he

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with it and so Kim is going to love his

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experience and come back to centre of

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bringing this up is that on the center

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a lot of moving same track but you'll

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cat and put him on the bus to Arizona so

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of light radio business when we get to

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my notes on my guest today today my

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guest is the Patrick Miller and we're

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going to be talking about how to heal

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the hurts we don't deserve Patrick says

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if forgiveness was easy we wouldn't need

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it who will explain the process of

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giving over things that seem to have

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hurt us most by learning that it's

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always ourselves we are forgiving

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Patrick Miller is a veteran author with

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dozens of books to his name as well as a

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long history in the book business as an

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independent publisher editor book

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developer and literary agent I think

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Patrick and I need to have a

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conversation otherwise his 1994 title a

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little book of forgiveness was just

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released in the sixth edition as the

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forgiveness book by Hampton Roads

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publishing fantastic he has written

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about a wide variety of spiritual

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subject matter including the general

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topic of how to be spiritual about being

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religious the subject of his next book

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from Hampton Roads coming in 2018 you

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can find more about my guest at triple w

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calm / forgive dot html' welcome to

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centre of light radio Patrick Miller

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thank you I'm thrilled to be here

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I'm glad you here as I said earlier you

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came highly recommended by another

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phenomen being a dear friend of mine of

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ours our Maria Philippe

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Patrick one thing I wanted to ask you or

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mention was I had a guest on my shelf

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some time back after doing much research

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about what goes on in some of these

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Himalayan caves when these buddhist

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monks meditate over the course to their

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way of enlightenment that what they're

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doing in those chains day in and day out

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themselves that they are still not

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forgiving others or themselves and I

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fascinating they're finding all those

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places inside that they need to forgive

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of a course in miracles which has been

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very important in my life

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the very beginning of the course it says

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that we don't need to search for love or

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try to understand love we only need to

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remove the blocks the obstacles that

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sometimes called the via negativa or the

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the negative way that instead of looking

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towards the light and once blesses you

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darkness you look at what's in the way

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how to go inside and pry their hands off

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people may think well you know I just

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not difficult you just you know you just

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forget about it and go on and move on

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with your life and that's what I call

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where you look at whatever deeply

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or condemnation and I use the word grip

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because it's very much what's going on I

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something and it's often unconscious we

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have to look at that at that clinging

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and grasping and imagine letting it go

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that they repeatedly want to forgive a

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situation or person or themselves which

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it's a situation in a person in a

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situation just the ongoing wanting to

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forgive would that somewhat begin to

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modalities come in to where the the

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forgiveness actually begins to happen on

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some level that they get the effect and

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forgiveness window yeah I often refer to

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forgiveness as a as a forgotten instinct

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we know how to do it and we can get back

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to it but we have to give up the

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opposing instinct which is to get even

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to settle things to have power over all

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of which can be very you know tempting

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responses to the world someone does

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you're on and you want to you want to

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not just change it or fix it but you

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wouldn't you want to get even and that

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feels good think about it at least to

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the person in the illusion or the

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situation they are believing that it

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would feel good not only to get at them

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but to get one more up

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you know not only just kill the roaches

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smash the bejesus out of it

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but so that being said what would be the

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motivating factor for them to follow the

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path of forgiveness that would say of

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course it would feel good to you know

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knock someone out whatever reason that

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we say we were done something but what

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would you offer as the reason the

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motivating factor for them to watch a

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movement to forgiveness the way I put in

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my book is that sweet revenge is junk

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food for the Soul in other word well

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that was good bro that was in other

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words you get a high from it you get

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something like a sugar high you you know

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you get and and you get an illusion of

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power and what I always tell people you

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know sometimes people say well you know

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I can I can't forgive because it will

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set me up to get hurt again and that's a

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in fact true forgiveness makes you

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stronger and more powerful and it even

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helps you see things more clearly that's

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why I say that when when some people

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sometimes try to do a bypass and say

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well I just don't want to think about it

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I'll just move on they're not really

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getting the power that they could get by

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looking at things more closely so

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sometimes when you're truly forgiving in

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a way you'll see things more critically

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you'll actually see things more clearly

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you'll see what the actual problem is

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because you're not so angry sometimes we

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think we have to get really really angry

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to change things in my experience

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there's a there's a limit to how useful

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anger is and when it becomes kind of

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compulsive and 24/7 that it actually

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prevents you from seeing what's going on

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it especially prevents you from seeing

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author when were very angry about

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something we feel very wounded we've

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developed an image of ourselves as

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wounded and we kind of get habituated to

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feeling wounded and we think that by

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being wounded and angry we're being

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powerful in fact we will become more

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powerful if we let go of the anger and

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started healing the wound but it is a

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fear that people have that that that

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forgiveness will make them you know a

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patsy or push over or open them up to

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danger and that's that's just not a good

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understanding of what the of what the

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forgiveness process is we're all

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familiar with the common cliche or

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sentence that forgiveness is not about

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the other person and letting them quote

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off the hook line and that almost sounds

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and forgetting by using those words

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letting them up that's their stuff it's

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really about letting myself be free and

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off the hook

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ultimately yes but you don't always get

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there right away you know you have to

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you have to start with you have to start

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you know where you are my book was

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originally inspired by a it was written

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after a period of being he'll for seven

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years and during and that was the

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beginning of my spiritual path and it

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was during that time that I discovered

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how angry I was about a lot of things

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and I was especially angry for my mother

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who was emotionally disturbed and you

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know had all kinds of psychiatric

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diagnoses and problems and for the

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longest time I thought she was the

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problem in my life and the big

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realization that I came to and this was

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really took me years of work

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what released me what gave me

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forgiveness was a simple realization of

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oh she did the best she could you know

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she failed a lot of things but I failed

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it a lot of things too and I would not

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judge myself for doing the best I can

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and failing so how do I fail how do I

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judge someone else for that and there

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was a big lesson for me in that because

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sometimes we think that forgiving means

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we've got to have big profound

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realizations that have never been

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thought of before you know I was hoping

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that would that's a way would be

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terrible

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seriously and sometimes that's true but

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as I say you know what I suffered for

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years being angry at my mother and and

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the Kito was a simple realization oh she

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did the best she could you know and that

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unlocked everything and I thought it was

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going to be something bigger than that

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you know sometimes they do something

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bigger than that but that did get back

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to well how do I handle myself and I

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realized that probably I had been

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judging myself for failing and not

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letting it be okay that I was doing the

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there are some more profound things that

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come up you know part I think part of

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true self-acceptance is sort of the

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Buddhist notion that it's okay to die

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and I get that Patrick I get exactly I'm

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assuming what that means it's okay to

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die it's okay to let that old stagnant

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old paradigm that old world part of you

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just go and you know I would work for me

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Patrick and still does to this day any

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time that something manifest

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in my life that would cause me to be

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upset and harbor anger towards someone

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although I may get upset at the moment

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and use out of a way of saying no this

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is just something I'm not interested in

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I'm expressing myself because I don't

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want to keep it inside a mother than

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today I'll be clear tomorrow I'm good

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I've done them I'm in situations

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forgiving but anytime something arises

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in my life Patrick the first thing I go

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to is what have a knot in a way that I'm

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going to punish myself but from an

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honest point of view an honest inquiry

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about myself is what have I done to

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bring this about in my life so it means

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immediately puts me in the driving in

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the driving seat with my hands on the

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steering wheel to your power versus oh

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my god I can't believe this happens and

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begins to harbor this over a period of

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time so I asked myself the question

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obviously I've done something to bring

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this about in my life and there's no

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longer for me any future forgiveness

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work that has to happen I'm not saying

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pure that I'm completely said and done

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with the situation but I know the hooks

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that it could have the grip I just

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mentioned it could have had in me does

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not exist for taking such posture right

402
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there is a sense in which there's a

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sense in which we create our own reality

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not in the sense that we create all our

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material circumstances and you know

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everything that we perceive around us

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but we do choose how we see everything

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you know if you were if two people are

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sitting in a room and side by side were

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asked to describe that room in an

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objective way they've probably come up

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with completely different descriptions

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of what's there or what exactly the

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colors are what it means you know

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whether the room is expansive or

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confining the way they would just

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describe physical surroundings will

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reflect what's going on inside them and

419
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by the same token when you get to

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perceiving what's going on emotionally

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and perceiving what's going on in

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relationships

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yes you're creating what you think is

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happening and as I say with my mom I

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thought for years she was a terrible

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person out to hurt me and that was the

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perception I had chosen therefore that

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was the reality and how it got back to

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forgiving myself was that I realized

430
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after I'd been out on my own for some

431
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years that she didn't really have much

432
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influence on my life anymore but she

433
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might as well have been right beside me

434
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because I had incorporated the things

435
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that I thought she had done to me and I

436
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was doing them to myself and this is

437
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often the case with chronic relationship

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problems particularly if we're looking

439
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back on a past relationship or say a

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parent whose past or something is not so

441
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much what the other person is really

442
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doing to us anymore it's what we took on

443
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how we took over for them and how it

444
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continues to play itself out into number

445
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two it runs the course yeah or the

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problem is that the course is often a

447
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repeating cycle and so it's never going

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to run its course in terms of fixing

449
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itself that's why I say in the book you

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know a grievance will never resolve

451
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itself

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repeating it over and over there is no

453
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logic to it or it's a closed logic loop

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it's always going to tell you the same

455
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thing and you relive it what is the gig

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from this point forth is it about

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becoming conscious or just becoming

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aware of the situation because if

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awareness is light just by being aware

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of it doesn't change it on some level

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well I think yeah you have to have the

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desire to see things differently you

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have to be willing to admit the

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possibility that I may not have though

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the whole story

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that's why I'm like in my first step of

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forgiveness is to look very closely at

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whatever is disturbing you and review it

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completely and by completely I mean from

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different points of view uh not just the

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same old story that you've been telling

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yourself but stepping back maybe you

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know if you were the victim of someone

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perpetrated something against you

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stepping back and looking back at it

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imagining it from their point of view

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then imagine it from an objective point

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of view as if you were you know watching

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the scenario from above and watching

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yourself behave and also reviewing it in

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detail means looking for its potential

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what what what maybe was there to teach

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you that you haven't gotten yet does

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anytime that we have a chronic something

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chronic and Unforgiven we have kind of

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fixed the storyline of what happened

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forever there's no possibility of what

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happened ever changing in our minds but

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the fact is we sell them actually

490
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remember what happened in fact I don't

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know I I get that yeah because you know

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something happens and I see it through

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my keyhole and that's the way it

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happened but somehow over a period of

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time it begins that vision or the

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perception that we thought we had it

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actually begins to fade is that what you

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mean well um it can begin to say just

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out of exhaustion that that's where the

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oh hell that's where the old saying of

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forgive and forget comes from and now

502
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and I think yeah we do forgive and

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forget some lesser things

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the things we don't forgive things we

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don't forget the things we deliberately

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keep remembering in an obsessive way

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because um we don't want to forgive them

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so that's why I say the process is not

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forgive and forget is to remember

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completely and then forgive and if you

511
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do that yeah over time some grievances

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will drop away and a few years later

513
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you'll suddenly realize oh I used to be

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really bothered by so-and-so and now

515
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it's just not in not an issue so I think

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there's a you know there's some you have

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to take a serious look at how much your

518
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picture of yourself your idea of

519
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yourself has to do with grievances and

520
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in the process of my illness and less my

521
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spiritual awakening what was you know

522
00:26:37,950 --> 00:26:33,460
kind of horrifying for a couple years

523
00:26:41,789 --> 00:26:37,960
was realizing how much of what I thought

524
00:26:45,810 --> 00:26:41,799
was real had to do with anger and

525
00:26:47,820 --> 00:26:45,820
grievance so I heard you mention this a

526
00:26:50,430 --> 00:26:47,830
little earlier about your illnesses

527
00:26:53,789 --> 00:26:50,440
earlier early on and you mentioned it

528
00:26:55,530 --> 00:26:53,799
again um are you looking to the fact

529
00:26:56,940 --> 00:26:55,540
that through this awakening process the

530
00:26:59,850 --> 00:26:56,950
anger and the lack of forgiveness you

531
00:27:03,780 --> 00:26:59,860
had somehow changed you health-wise

532
00:27:05,340 --> 00:27:03,790
because of oh absolutely um can you give

533
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:05,350
this little more about that absolutely

534
00:27:08,669 --> 00:27:06,850
at the bottom of the hour eight eight

535
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:08,679
nine one nine two three five five if you

536
00:27:12,990 --> 00:27:10,450
want to call in to speak to myself my

537
00:27:14,610 --> 00:27:13,000
awesome guest today mr. Patrick Miller

538
00:27:17,100 --> 00:27:14,620
please dial it number eight eight nine

539
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one nine two three five five Patrick

540
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:18,730
would you give up your confident contact

541
00:27:23,039 --> 00:27:20,890
information how our listening audience

542
00:27:24,450 --> 00:27:23,049
can find you and more about what you're

543
00:27:25,770 --> 00:27:24,460
doing and your books on forgiveness and

544
00:27:28,350 --> 00:27:25,780
then when we come back from the bottom

545
00:27:31,140 --> 00:27:28,360
of that answer that question if you

546
00:27:32,970 --> 00:27:31,150
would about how your radical change your

547
00:27:35,730 --> 00:27:32,980
awakening your self forgiveness and

548
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:35,740
releasing of anger um brought your

549
00:27:43,740 --> 00:27:39,490
health back to snap all right

550
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:43,750
find out about my work at WWF earless

551
00:27:52,140 --> 00:27:49,050
books calm and my forgiveness book is

552
00:27:58,710 --> 00:27:52,150
specifically at fearless books calm /

553
00:28:02,070 --> 00:27:58,720
forgive dot html' yeah many years ago I

554
00:28:06,540 --> 00:28:02,080
was Phil suddenly ill and by suddenly I

555
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:06,550
mean overnight and stay deal for seven

556
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:09,610
years and it took about six months

557
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:11,170
before I was diagnosed with chronic

558
00:28:16,500 --> 00:28:14,050
fatigue syndrome and at the time that

559
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:16,510
was a fairly new diagnosis which is why

560
00:28:30,090 --> 00:28:27,540
the problem then as it is now with

561
00:28:34,220 --> 00:28:30,100
chronic fatigue syndrome is that this is

562
00:28:36,780 --> 00:28:34,230
difficult to diagnose there really is no

563
00:28:38,490 --> 00:28:36,790
it has to be diagnosed by someone with

564
00:28:40,530 --> 00:28:38,500
the experience and knowing what it is

565
00:28:43,650 --> 00:28:40,540
there's not a test for it and there's

566
00:28:48,870 --> 00:28:43,660
really no good medical treatment for it

567
00:28:53,270 --> 00:28:48,880
and that hasn't changed in 30 years so

568
00:28:55,500 --> 00:28:53,280
pretty soon I was left with the UH

569
00:28:58,980 --> 00:28:55,510
obvious necessity that I had to figure

570
00:29:02,480 --> 00:28:58,990
this out myself nobody was really able

571
00:29:06,020 --> 00:29:02,490
to help me I found some things

572
00:29:10,710 --> 00:29:06,030
acupuncture was a little bit helpful

573
00:29:13,370 --> 00:29:10,720
working on my diet was helpful but

574
00:29:17,850 --> 00:29:13,380
nothing altogether was working and I

575
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:17,860
gradually had to look at why why would

576
00:29:21,180 --> 00:29:19,330
my whole body collapse

577
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:21,190
why would everything just stopped

578
00:29:29,730 --> 00:29:25,690
working and a key was when I learned

579
00:29:34,650 --> 00:29:29,740
that chronic fatigue syndrome like is an

580
00:29:37,350 --> 00:29:34,660
autoimmune failure and in the particular

581
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:37,360
as opposed to aids which is also

582
00:29:48,930 --> 00:29:41,650
autoimmune aids is when your immune

583
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:50,160
chronic fatigue and some other

584
00:29:57,230 --> 00:29:52,690
autoimmune things are result of the

585
00:30:01,590 --> 00:29:57,240
immune system being hyperactive

586
00:30:03,900 --> 00:30:01,600
literally just over defending is it the

587
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:03,910
autoimmune just a system is it attacking

588
00:30:10,790 --> 00:30:07,450
itself yes yeah and isn't that sort of a

589
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:10,800
physical manifestation of what this

590
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:13,810
spiritual possibility of not forgiving

591
00:30:19,980 --> 00:30:16,690
self is an attack on the self and it's a

592
00:30:21,990 --> 00:30:19,990
manifestation of that exactly yeah that

593
00:30:26,900 --> 00:30:22,000
that was the big realization I had to go

594
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:26,910
through was that I thought that I

595
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:29,050
thought the way to deal with the world

596
00:30:36,330 --> 00:30:31,330
was to constantly be kind of wary of it

597
00:30:40,260 --> 00:30:36,340
and angry and ready to fight back and at

598
00:30:43,050 --> 00:30:40,270
a certain point at a deep unconscious

599
00:30:47,300 --> 00:30:43,060
level my body said you know you can go

600
00:30:54,630 --> 00:30:51,360
it gave up it gave up the battle you

601
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:54,640
know and I do not mean to say and I'm

602
00:31:02,040 --> 00:30:57,570
always careful when I speak to people

603
00:31:04,260 --> 00:31:02,050
certainly with chronic fatigue they're

604
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:04,270
not saying it's always caused by anger

605
00:31:13,190 --> 00:31:09,130
I'm saying in my case it definitely was

606
00:31:17,060 --> 00:31:13,200
but that was less important really than

607
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:17,070
deciding what do I do about it and that

608
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:20,290
was what put me on a path of forgiveness

609
00:31:25,710 --> 00:31:21,730
and believe me I'm one of these people

610
00:31:28,950 --> 00:31:25,720
who would have thought of forgiveness as

611
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:28,960
weakness while I've always been a writer

612
00:31:33,900 --> 00:31:30,610
in the beginning my career I was an

613
00:31:36,030 --> 00:31:33,910
investigative reporter which means that

614
00:31:37,380 --> 00:31:36,040
I was coming from a worldview of there's

615
00:31:39,810 --> 00:31:37,390
something wrong with the world and

616
00:31:42,330 --> 00:31:39,820
somebody's fault out there and I'm going

617
00:31:43,670 --> 00:31:42,340
to find them and expose them and then

618
00:31:45,900 --> 00:31:43,680
everything will be great

619
00:31:51,170 --> 00:31:45,910
it only took me a couple years to

620
00:31:55,860 --> 00:31:53,580
because even when you find the bad guy

621
00:32:00,210 --> 00:31:55,870
and identify them there's a whole line

622
00:32:02,049 --> 00:32:00,220
of them you have a video game of so

623
00:32:06,549 --> 00:32:02,059
you're not going to save

624
00:32:08,469 --> 00:32:06,559
the world that way and you know so it

625
00:32:12,759 --> 00:32:08,479
was a very difficult process for me to

626
00:32:18,909 --> 00:32:12,769
give all this up to constantly see

627
00:32:20,950 --> 00:32:18,919
everything going wrong as out there and

628
00:32:23,649 --> 00:32:20,960
I was I was the judge of all the things

629
00:32:26,769 --> 00:32:23,659
going wrong in the world and pulled that

630
00:32:32,019 --> 00:32:26,779
back and say what if things are going

631
00:32:38,589 --> 00:32:32,029
wrong within me particularly the way

632
00:32:41,229 --> 00:32:38,599
that I see the world and while there was

633
00:32:46,119 --> 00:32:41,239
definitely over no overnight cured to

634
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:46,129
take me seven years a process this book

635
00:32:51,310 --> 00:32:49,210
on forgiveness it's literally the

636
00:32:55,299 --> 00:32:51,320
guidebook to what I went through and how

637
00:32:57,519 --> 00:32:55,309
I came out it was after that seven year

638
00:32:59,469 --> 00:32:57,529
period that I got the inspiration for

639
00:33:01,119 --> 00:32:59,479
this book I wrote most of it it's a

640
00:33:03,849 --> 00:33:01,129
short book I wrote most of it in a week

641
00:33:06,039 --> 00:33:03,859
and then went through some revision

642
00:33:16,209 --> 00:33:06,049
process and it was you know just all

643
00:33:19,599 --> 00:33:16,219
this stuff poured out and a few years

644
00:33:22,389 --> 00:33:19,609
ago I wrote an essay about my mother

645
00:33:25,719 --> 00:33:22,399
called the perfect mother and it was a

646
00:33:30,579 --> 00:33:25,729
reflection on how I reached a point

647
00:33:33,519 --> 00:33:30,589
where I realized that I had the perfect

648
00:33:38,589 --> 00:33:33,529
mother to become the author of a book

649
00:33:42,070 --> 00:33:38,599
about forgiveness and therefore she

650
00:33:44,409 --> 00:33:42,080
didn't do anything wrong you know she

651
00:33:47,649 --> 00:33:44,419
was the perfect mother for what I became

652
00:33:49,329 --> 00:33:47,659
and in the essay I asked would have been

653
00:33:51,249 --> 00:33:49,339
have been better if she'd been the

654
00:33:54,279 --> 00:33:51,259
perfect mother so I didn't have to learn

655
00:33:56,859 --> 00:33:54,289
forgiveness and write about that reached

656
00:33:59,889 --> 00:33:56,869
out oh I know that that is a very very

657
00:34:02,529 --> 00:33:59,899
good point and I loved hearing that from

658
00:34:04,959 --> 00:34:02,539
you yeah we can look at mom being this

659
00:34:06,669 --> 00:34:04,969
whatever but you come into that

660
00:34:08,409 --> 00:34:06,679
realization and what you just said it

661
00:34:10,269 --> 00:34:08,419
hit me really really nicely pretty hard

662
00:34:11,619 --> 00:34:10,279
actually you know I could have had a

663
00:34:13,149 --> 00:34:11,629
mother that would have been a certain

664
00:34:14,919 --> 00:34:13,159
way of the way I thought it should be

665
00:34:17,819 --> 00:34:14,929
but I never would have learned

666
00:34:20,889 --> 00:34:17,829
and level of integrating it to my soul

667
00:34:22,389 --> 00:34:20,899
what real forgiveness is if it wasn't

668
00:34:24,430 --> 00:34:22,399
for her being the perfect design of a

669
00:34:26,730 --> 00:34:24,440
mother to place you here in this planet

670
00:34:29,710 --> 00:34:26,740
to where you are now using your

671
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:29,720
launching pad to help other people move

672
00:34:32,260 --> 00:34:31,010
into the arena of true forgiveness

673
00:34:35,069 --> 00:34:32,270
that's amazing

674
00:34:37,059 --> 00:34:35,079
and you can extend that principle from

675
00:34:38,289 --> 00:34:37,069
you don't have the perk your mother you

676
00:34:39,609 --> 00:34:38,299
don't have the perfect father you don't

677
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:39,619
have the perfect president you don't

678
00:34:45,279 --> 00:34:40,970
have the perfect country you don't have

679
00:34:47,409 --> 00:34:45,289
the perfect culture the world it's like

680
00:34:49,210 --> 00:34:47,419
we wake up after childhood we wake up

681
00:34:52,899 --> 00:34:49,220
into the world and something is wrong

682
00:34:53,409 --> 00:34:52,909
with it you know something needs to

683
00:34:57,490 --> 00:34:53,419
change

684
00:35:00,849 --> 00:34:57,500
something needs to be fixed and the

685
00:35:06,279 --> 00:35:00,859
hardest thing to learn very difficult

686
00:35:07,839 --> 00:35:06,289
for me is that yeah you can do something

687
00:35:10,870 --> 00:35:07,849
to change the world but you have to

688
00:35:16,089 --> 00:35:10,880
start at the base level of how am I

689
00:35:21,279 --> 00:35:16,099
looking at the world start with your how

690
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:21,289
do you look at the world again in A

691
00:35:25,720 --> 00:35:22,970
Course in Miracles which was my central

692
00:35:28,990 --> 00:35:25,730
inspiration to give this wonderful got

693
00:35:32,950 --> 00:35:29,000
this wonderful guide for how to look

694
00:35:36,130 --> 00:35:32,960
upon anything that anyone does for you

695
00:35:39,839 --> 00:35:36,140
or to you and that guidance is to look

696
00:35:45,190 --> 00:35:39,849
on anything that anyone does is either

697
00:35:47,319 --> 00:35:45,200
an expression of love or a call for love

698
00:35:50,589 --> 00:35:47,329
and then ask

699
00:35:52,660 --> 00:35:50,599
in either case what's your response you

700
00:35:55,299 --> 00:35:52,670
know if someone's expressing love then

701
00:35:58,900 --> 00:35:55,309
you return love if someone's calling for

702
00:36:00,490 --> 00:35:58,910
love you provide the love they need now

703
00:36:04,180 --> 00:36:00,500
that can be very complicated of course

704
00:36:06,069 --> 00:36:04,190
if you're costed in the street by

705
00:36:07,720 --> 00:36:06,079
somebody with a knife they're

706
00:36:11,500 --> 00:36:07,730
threatening to kill you that's a pretty

707
00:36:13,690 --> 00:36:11,510
complicated call for love and the first

708
00:36:16,390 --> 00:36:13,700
thing you may do is not say I love you

709
00:36:17,740 --> 00:36:16,400
the first thing is you know you get the

710
00:36:21,279 --> 00:36:17,750
knife out of their hands and you get

711
00:36:24,329 --> 00:36:21,289
them on the ground but again it is a

712
00:36:27,519 --> 00:36:24,339
question of where are you coming from

713
00:36:28,300 --> 00:36:27,529
you know do you see this disturbed

714
00:36:31,900 --> 00:36:28,310
person within

715
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:31,910
nine for the gun or whatever you know as

716
00:36:38,290 --> 00:36:34,930
the bad thing that must be eliminated or

717
00:36:40,150 --> 00:36:38,300
the person who's struggling with

718
00:36:42,610 --> 00:36:40,160
something probably similar to things

719
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:42,620
you've struggled with and has come up

720
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:46,130
with a terrible solution you know a

721
00:36:53,380 --> 00:36:48,530
terrible means of approaching that

722
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:53,390
problem and you can look back in the GU

723
00:36:59,800 --> 00:36:55,970
life shows some some terrible means to

724
00:37:02,020 --> 00:36:59,810
solve problems myself so we're not and

725
00:37:06,850 --> 00:37:02,030
again this gets back to the question of

726
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:06,860
whether you see forgiveness as as weak

727
00:37:14,170 --> 00:37:11,410
or not many years ago I studied Aikido

728
00:37:18,130 --> 00:37:14,180
which is a defensive martial art you

729
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:18,140
know in the serious room yes yes you

730
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:18,770
know it's badass

731
00:37:28,390 --> 00:37:22,010
not exactly nonviolent but the defensive

732
00:37:32,290 --> 00:37:28,400
you don't you know and the founder once

733
00:37:34,630 --> 00:37:32,300
said maha shiva once said that the aim

734
00:37:37,030 --> 00:37:34,640
of the practice the whole reason to

735
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:37,040
achieve the highest degree of the black

736
00:37:44,860 --> 00:37:40,850
belt was to have the capacity to walk

737
00:37:49,420 --> 00:37:44,870
into a room and quill any conflict with

738
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:49,430
your presence alone no techniques no

739
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:51,530
physical action you walk into the room

740
00:37:57,340 --> 00:37:54,770
conflict stops they said to have that

741
00:38:02,230 --> 00:37:57,350
kind of presence you must master the

742
00:38:05,290 --> 00:38:02,240
techniques you know the techniques are

743
00:38:06,700 --> 00:38:05,300
sort of a what does the word I'm looking

744
00:38:10,090 --> 00:38:06,710
for the more short practice where it's

745
00:38:13,750 --> 00:38:10,100
not really um touchy so the techniques

746
00:38:16,240 --> 00:38:13,760
or Tai Chi like to wear or even like

747
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:16,250
yoga by using the techniques it brings

748
00:38:20,350 --> 00:38:17,810
you to a heightened state of awareness

749
00:38:24,970 --> 00:38:20,360
yes is that what you're bringing up yes

750
00:38:30,070 --> 00:38:24,980
it refines your consciousness no is that

751
00:38:32,770 --> 00:38:30,080
and you know forgiveness is pretty much

752
00:38:35,830 --> 00:38:32,780
the same way it's not a it's not just a

753
00:38:41,470 --> 00:38:35,840
response to difficulty it's a way of

754
00:38:42,220 --> 00:38:41,480
seeing the world differently and as you

755
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:42,230
become

756
00:38:48,790 --> 00:38:45,170
customs that way of seeing the world

757
00:38:51,790 --> 00:38:48,800
differently you just start encountering

758
00:38:57,609 --> 00:38:51,800
fewer conflicts you make less trouble

759
00:39:00,010 --> 00:38:57,619
for yourself you don't get into as many

760
00:39:03,130 --> 00:39:00,020
troubles it's troublesome situations as

761
00:39:05,910 --> 00:39:03,140
you did before because you have that

762
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:05,920
assumption that people are either

763
00:39:10,620 --> 00:39:08,330
expressing love or asking for love and

764
00:39:13,060 --> 00:39:10,630
that's all that's going on

765
00:39:16,420 --> 00:39:13,070
this is some total of what's going on

766
00:39:17,590 --> 00:39:16,430
now you say that a minute ago about you

767
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:17,600
know you're on the street someone pulls

768
00:39:20,290 --> 00:39:18,650
out a knife you don't just start

769
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:20,300
screaming out I love you give me a big

770
00:39:25,450 --> 00:39:23,410
warm fuzzy hug okay that's kind of a

771
00:39:27,849 --> 00:39:25,460
funny that you say that because a few

772
00:39:29,890 --> 00:39:27,859
days ago on Facebook I saw this video

773
00:39:32,380 --> 00:39:29,900
and it was real it seemed all every bit

774
00:39:35,530 --> 00:39:32,390
legit to me this man walks into a police

775
00:39:37,720 --> 00:39:35,540
station I believe in Taiwan with a knife

776
00:39:40,990 --> 00:39:37,730
and he's about to approach a police

777
00:39:42,370 --> 00:39:41,000
officer with this knife and the police

778
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:42,380
officer I mean he could have pulled out

779
00:39:47,290 --> 00:39:44,690
a pistol shot that guy dad passed police

780
00:39:48,790 --> 00:39:47,300
officers do but he didn't he took his

781
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:48,800
gun out of his holster he put on the

782
00:39:52,930 --> 00:39:50,690
collar on the desk he opened up his arms

783
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:52,940
as wise it was Jesus Christ being you

784
00:39:57,790 --> 00:39:55,970
know busted wide open and he made the

785
00:39:59,020 --> 00:39:57,800
guy relaxed and comfortable and he told

786
00:40:02,230 --> 00:39:59,030
the guy come over here and he gave this

787
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:02,240
guy this really big hug and the guy just

788
00:40:07,150 --> 00:40:04,490
bawled it was no remorse

789
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:07,160
he felt remorse immediately the guy who

790
00:40:11,260 --> 00:40:09,170
did it and there were no charges pressed

791
00:40:13,330 --> 00:40:11,270
and in fact he was upset because they

792
00:40:14,950 --> 00:40:13,340
lost a guitar the police officer happen

793
00:40:16,810 --> 00:40:14,960
to have a spare guitar and it was just

794
00:40:20,859 --> 00:40:16,820
this amazing beautiful thing to watch

795
00:40:23,050 --> 00:40:20,869
unfold that being said are you has there

796
00:40:26,140 --> 00:40:23,060
come a time in your practice of the

797
00:40:29,109 --> 00:40:26,150
forgiveness practice often in my life

798
00:40:31,990 --> 00:40:29,119
Patrick x'q actually some years ago I

799
00:40:35,170 --> 00:40:32,000
realized at least my path was about

800
00:40:37,240 --> 00:40:35,180
addressing fears now let's like in all

801
00:40:39,910 --> 00:40:37,250
the fears that a person may have or all

802
00:40:42,460 --> 00:40:39,920
the forgiveness that or unforgiveness as

803
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:42,470
a person man to an old rotting tree in

804
00:40:46,620 --> 00:40:44,570
the backyard now we can pull out a

805
00:40:49,570 --> 00:40:46,630
chainsaw and cut every branch and

806
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:49,580
eventually do the work every branch we

807
00:40:53,410 --> 00:40:51,290
cut is doing the work surrounding the

808
00:40:56,410 --> 00:40:53,420
fear of the unforgiveness now eventually

809
00:40:59,710 --> 00:40:56,420
would be done with it and we clear

810
00:41:02,500 --> 00:40:59,720
you can pull out a chainsaw and what

811
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:02,510
entry from the bottom and it all be done

812
00:41:07,660 --> 00:41:05,210
have you found yourself ever and a place

813
00:41:09,790 --> 00:41:07,670
to where instead of doing at it by

814
00:41:12,070 --> 00:41:09,800
taking little bites of an apple that you

815
00:41:14,890 --> 00:41:12,080
just found a place inside of you that

816
00:41:21,750 --> 00:41:14,900
you were able to dissipate all the

817
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:21,760
lingering little phantom unforgiveness

818
00:41:29,500 --> 00:41:24,410
it's interesting question I mean what

819
00:41:34,180 --> 00:41:29,510
comes to mind more so than that is the

820
00:41:38,500 --> 00:41:34,190
feeling that I just get myself into less

821
00:41:44,050 --> 00:41:38,510
trouble than I used to you know I'm not

822
00:41:49,720 --> 00:41:44,060
looking I'm not looking for a fight you

823
00:41:52,690 --> 00:41:49,730
know so because I'm not it doesn't

824
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:52,700
happen whereas when I was an

825
00:41:59,950 --> 00:41:55,970
investigative reporter I sort of the

826
00:42:01,870 --> 00:41:59,960
code of the the profession was the the

827
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:01,880
more people you piss off the better job

828
00:42:07,210 --> 00:42:05,930
you're doing and I you know make a lot

829
00:42:10,510 --> 00:42:07,220
of people angry then you must have done

830
00:42:14,140 --> 00:42:10,520
a good job and I I got tired of that

831
00:42:16,420 --> 00:42:14,150
really quickly because I was ill all the

832
00:42:18,490 --> 00:42:16,430
time I was stressed all the time I was

833
00:42:21,220 --> 00:42:18,500
actually not bad at it I got quite a few

834
00:42:23,950 --> 00:42:21,230
people pissed off I got a us villager

835
00:42:26,020 --> 00:42:23,960
pissed off one done you know but I

836
00:42:30,430 --> 00:42:26,030
couldn't see you know where that was

837
00:42:32,530 --> 00:42:30,440
going to to lead to anything I I did see

838
00:42:37,630 --> 00:42:32,540
that video you mentioned and one thing I

839
00:42:43,810 --> 00:42:37,640
want to say about that is that in

840
00:42:46,390 --> 00:42:43,820
America we equate power generally with

841
00:42:51,750 --> 00:42:46,400
the bigger and bigger gun you know and

842
00:42:59,170 --> 00:42:54,250
crazy guy comes into the police station

843
00:43:05,140 --> 00:42:59,180
with a knife you got to pull out your

844
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:05,150
gun and take him out and what impressed

845
00:43:09,350 --> 00:43:06,890
me about that that money might not be

846
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:09,360
immediately obvious was how power

847
00:43:17,060 --> 00:43:13,770
that police officer was an incredible

848
00:43:19,190 --> 00:43:17,070
confidence and power to just sit there

849
00:43:24,170 --> 00:43:19,200
and say this guy's not going to hurt me

850
00:43:27,020 --> 00:43:24,180
you know and now I think probably some

851
00:43:31,490 --> 00:43:27,030
of that comes from training you know

852
00:43:34,460 --> 00:43:31,500
it's it but also from a personal

853
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:34,470
awareness of comdata thank you very much

854
00:43:39,470 --> 00:43:36,330
he had a personal awareness about

855
00:43:42,620 --> 00:43:39,480
himself that as he read the situation he

856
00:43:45,500 --> 00:43:42,630
saw that man in that moment as a cry for

857
00:43:48,620 --> 00:43:45,510
love completely complain he was out of

858
00:43:50,810 --> 00:43:48,630
thread he was just crying out right and

859
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:50,820
compare that to America where people are

860
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:52,650
getting shot by the police because the

861
00:43:57,410 --> 00:43:55,410
police think they have a gun you know

862
00:44:01,490 --> 00:43:57,420
it's almost their immediate assumption

863
00:44:03,290 --> 00:44:01,500
which shows one thing poor training but

864
00:44:06,460 --> 00:44:03,300
not just technical training of how do

865
00:44:09,020 --> 00:44:06,470
you handle violent situations but also

866
00:44:13,700 --> 00:44:09,030
spiritual training how do you handle

867
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:13,710
yourself under pressure and when you are

868
00:44:20,540 --> 00:44:17,610
not well when you are in an unforgiving

869
00:44:28,510 --> 00:44:20,550
state of mind you absolutely will see

870
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:28,520
danger everywhere and when you're in a

871
00:44:32,450 --> 00:44:30,570
more forgiving state of mind you

872
00:44:37,100 --> 00:44:32,460
actually have a better perception of

873
00:44:38,750 --> 00:44:37,110
things years ago I interviewed a teacher

874
00:44:41,150 --> 00:44:38,760
of the course David Hofmeister

875
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:41,160
and we were talking about this issue of

876
00:44:47,930 --> 00:44:45,650
courage and fear and he talked about how

877
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:47,940
he was once standing on a street corner

878
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:50,970
in Cleveland Ohio with a bunch of people

879
00:44:58,310 --> 00:44:56,610
and a bus backfired and it sounded

880
00:45:01,340 --> 00:44:58,320
exactly like a gunshot

881
00:45:05,570 --> 00:45:01,350
and he said people were like ducking and

882
00:45:09,830 --> 00:45:05,580
covering you know and he immediately

883
00:45:11,450 --> 00:45:09,840
knew that it was a bus backfire so he

884
00:45:13,940 --> 00:45:11,460
just kind of you know jolted a little

885
00:45:16,430 --> 00:45:13,950
bit and remarried and he said she said I

886
00:45:19,490 --> 00:45:16,440
didn't realize I would have done what

887
00:45:20,020 --> 00:45:19,500
everyone else did before I had a

888
00:45:23,980 --> 00:45:20,030
forgiving

889
00:45:26,380 --> 00:45:23,990
discipline because I was frightened by

890
00:45:28,450 --> 00:45:26,390
the world before I learned to start

891
00:45:31,450 --> 00:45:28,460
forgiving would you repeat that again

892
00:45:33,820 --> 00:45:31,460
that statement to a person who is

893
00:45:35,250 --> 00:45:33,830
looking through unforgiveness everything

894
00:45:38,140 --> 00:45:35,260
how did you say that again please

895
00:45:41,710 --> 00:45:38,150
to a person who is looking at the world

896
00:45:44,230 --> 00:45:41,720
unforgiving way danger is all around wow

897
00:45:46,660 --> 00:45:44,240
wow wow wow that's awesome and that's

898
00:45:49,810 --> 00:45:46,670
why I say forgiveness actually gives you

899
00:45:52,450 --> 00:45:49,820
clarity and power you learn it doesn't

900
00:45:55,630 --> 00:45:52,460
mean that you never see danger it means

901
00:45:59,080 --> 00:45:55,640
you have a better perception of when

902
00:46:00,790 --> 00:45:59,090
it's real and Linnet isn't and when you

903
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:00,800
see something going on that's just a

904
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:03,770
reflection of your own anger like the

905
00:46:10,750 --> 00:46:05,450
cop in the in the in the police station

906
00:46:14,470 --> 00:46:10,760
of since he wasn't looking to be

907
00:46:16,870 --> 00:46:14,480
attacked you know he wasn't fearful

908
00:46:19,750 --> 00:46:16,880
about it with it so he sees an unstable

909
00:46:22,210 --> 00:46:19,760
guy come in with a knife and probably

910
00:46:26,890 --> 00:46:22,220
the way he handled in his mind was this

911
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:26,900
guy needs to be calmed down you know he

912
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:30,650
doesn't need to be shot that's not going

913
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:33,290
to solve the problem here he needs to be

914
00:46:39,580 --> 00:46:35,210
calmed down how do I do that first thing

915
00:46:43,510 --> 00:46:39,590
I put my weapon away that shows a lot of

916
00:46:48,340 --> 00:46:43,520
power completely even though the other

917
00:46:50,140 --> 00:46:48,350
guy didn't have a gun still to be

918
00:46:54,310 --> 00:46:50,150
confronted with weapon and put yours

919
00:46:58,270 --> 00:46:54,320
away means you having a strong presence

920
00:47:00,880 --> 00:46:58,280
of mind and a lot of confidence but it's

921
00:47:02,410 --> 00:47:00,890
not a confidence that comes from oh I

922
00:47:03,510 --> 00:47:02,420
could take this guy out with my bare

923
00:47:06,460 --> 00:47:03,520
hands

924
00:47:08,170 --> 00:47:06,470
no you're right that is completely two

925
00:47:10,090 --> 00:47:08,180
different energetic signatures

926
00:47:12,940 --> 00:47:10,100
completely different absolutely right

927
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:12,950
it's a confidence that comes from being

928
00:47:17,110 --> 00:47:15,410
able to see oh this guy is suffering and

929
00:47:20,860 --> 00:47:17,120
we need to do something about that

930
00:47:24,190 --> 00:47:20,870
suffering that doesn't make you weak

931
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:24,200
that makes you stronger to have that

932
00:47:28,990 --> 00:47:27,050
perception now if the guy came in with a

933
00:47:31,810 --> 00:47:29,000
gun yeah maybe you got to answer with

934
00:47:33,850 --> 00:47:31,820
the gun because things happen as we seem

935
00:47:38,140 --> 00:47:33,860
to have a hard time learning in a mirror

936
00:47:42,730 --> 00:47:38,150
things happen much faster with guns and

937
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:42,740
you know somebody gets a bad mood and

938
00:47:47,890 --> 00:47:45,650
they go shoot somebody you know it's is

939
00:47:50,890 --> 00:47:47,900
too too often the way that we think

940
00:47:52,870 --> 00:47:50,900
things ought to be handled but I'm

941
00:47:55,570 --> 00:47:52,880
always stressing to people that you know

942
00:47:59,200 --> 00:47:55,580
forgiveness is not weakness it's just

943
00:48:01,900 --> 00:47:59,210
the reverse it's the key to having that

944
00:48:04,230 --> 00:48:01,910
powerful presence well we're first of

945
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:04,240
all you don't get in so much trouble

946
00:48:09,340 --> 00:48:06,410
because you're not looking for it or

947
00:48:11,740 --> 00:48:09,350
expecting it and second you have a

948
00:48:15,190 --> 00:48:11,750
clearer perception of what's actually

949
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:15,200
happening in a stressful situation and

950
00:48:20,620 --> 00:48:18,050
what to do inside situation because

951
00:48:22,630 --> 00:48:20,630
you're a clear-minded you're not monkey

952
00:48:25,240 --> 00:48:22,640
minded which allows no light no

953
00:48:27,250 --> 00:48:25,250
awareness more visibility to come in so

954
00:48:29,710 --> 00:48:27,260
when you take that kind of position yes

955
00:48:31,570 --> 00:48:29,720
Patrick that year you're clear you open

956
00:48:36,070 --> 00:48:31,580
you're able to process what are your

957
00:48:43,150 --> 00:48:36,080
options right and to be much smarter as

958
00:48:45,820 --> 00:48:43,160
a result um if you if you think that the

959
00:48:49,290 --> 00:48:45,830
answer to every danger you might

960
00:48:54,430 --> 00:48:49,300
encounter is to have a weapon on you

961
00:48:57,430 --> 00:48:54,440
then you're likely to use it you know or

962
00:48:59,710 --> 00:48:57,440
misuse it it becomes the answer to

963
00:49:01,960 --> 00:48:59,720
everything

964
00:49:05,230 --> 00:49:01,970
whereas if you're relying on your own

965
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:05,240
own consciousness your own clarity and

966
00:49:13,810 --> 00:49:09,170
your own you know readiness to respond

967
00:49:16,240 --> 00:49:13,820
in a helpful way you're actually

968
00:49:20,650 --> 00:49:16,250
stronger than you would be otherwise

969
00:49:23,500 --> 00:49:20,660
you're not depending on a gun or a harsh

970
00:49:27,190 --> 00:49:23,510
word or or an aggressive even an

971
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:27,200
aggressive demeanor you know you know

972
00:49:32,650 --> 00:49:30,770
Patrick I often said people who gun nuts

973
00:49:34,900 --> 00:49:32,660
they like guns I understand they might

974
00:49:37,270 --> 00:49:34,910
have a gun for a certain recreation

975
00:49:39,970 --> 00:49:37,280
whatever the people who use guns for

976
00:49:41,650 --> 00:49:39,980
protection often find themselves in such

977
00:49:43,660 --> 00:49:41,660
positions where they need to use that

978
00:49:46,060 --> 00:49:43,670
gun and they have furn to themselves and

979
00:49:47,500 --> 00:49:46,070
justify it by saying you see I told you

980
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:47,510
I needed the gun

981
00:49:53,859 --> 00:49:50,090
yes and but and even much more

982
00:49:56,050 --> 00:49:53,869
tragically you know the gun goes off in

983
00:49:59,109 --> 00:49:56,060
the hands of children and ah geez so

984
00:50:05,349 --> 00:49:59,119
forth you know and and that's and that's

985
00:50:07,599 --> 00:50:05,359
the problem with the state of mind that

986
00:50:11,590 --> 00:50:07,609
leads to the conviction you've got to

987
00:50:14,770 --> 00:50:11,600
have that kind of protection it reflects

988
00:50:17,170 --> 00:50:14,780
an enormous I have no other way to deal

989
00:50:22,470 --> 00:50:17,180
with any stress or conflict than to be

990
00:50:32,170 --> 00:50:28,470
smarts and clarity and ability to relate

991
00:50:37,630 --> 00:50:32,180
constructively you know not not

992
00:50:40,240 --> 00:50:37,640
everything that is stressful or seems

993
00:50:45,670 --> 00:50:40,250
like a conflict or offends us is

994
00:50:51,340 --> 00:50:45,680
dangerous you know not everything has to

995
00:50:55,770 --> 00:50:51,350
be met with maximum force just as the

996
00:50:58,750 --> 00:50:55,780
cop in the in the police station knew

997
00:51:02,680 --> 00:50:58,760
yeah this clusters danger doesn't mean

998
00:51:07,750 --> 00:51:02,690
it requires maximum force it in that

999
00:51:11,950 --> 00:51:07,760
case it required no force it required

1000
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:11,960
empathy which that cop was smart enough

1001
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:16,330
to know how to supply you know the the

1002
00:51:21,430 --> 00:51:18,650
troubled guy with the knife handing it

1003
00:51:23,650 --> 00:51:21,440
over to him and you know attitude that

1004
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:23,660
scenario if that cop would have drew his

1005
00:51:31,030 --> 00:51:26,930
weapon and shot that man dead now he has

1006
00:51:34,359 --> 00:51:31,040
to go home and go to bed with the fact

1007
00:51:36,370 --> 00:51:34,369
that he anyone would try to justify well

1008
00:51:38,710 --> 00:51:36,380
he pulled a knife and I was fearful of

1009
00:51:41,290 --> 00:51:38,720
my life but he doesn't have to do that

1010
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:41,300
he went the home with the bed felt no

1011
00:51:47,890 --> 00:51:43,970
Panama his own back of how he handled

1012
00:51:49,450 --> 00:51:47,900
the situation totally me I totally agree

1013
00:51:52,690 --> 00:51:49,460
it's not a weakness it's actually a

1014
00:51:56,380 --> 00:51:52,700
superhero power completely and also the

1015
00:52:00,590 --> 00:51:56,390
other side of that the the troubled

1016
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:00,600
man's family does have a dozen

1017
00:52:07,220 --> 00:52:05,010
have a cause against the police because

1018
00:52:08,570 --> 00:52:07,230
they're responsibly if it been shot well

1019
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:08,580
he wasn't he didn't really didn't mean

1020
00:52:16,940 --> 00:52:12,770
to hurt anyone which is absolutely true

1021
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:16,950
and but you shoot him down then suddenly

1022
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:19,050
you've got a very angry family or

1023
00:52:24,410 --> 00:52:21,930
neighborhood and and they have a just

1024
00:52:31,060 --> 00:52:24,420
cause from from their point of view in

1025
00:52:38,030 --> 00:52:34,820
our Police Department's had a lot more

1026
00:52:39,770 --> 00:52:38,040
meditation training or any I don't know

1027
00:52:42,490 --> 00:52:39,780
if they have any that would change the

1028
00:52:47,090 --> 00:52:42,500
whole dynamic of it all yes me I

1029
00:52:49,370 --> 00:52:47,100
actually I interviewed years ago I

1030
00:52:53,690 --> 00:52:49,380
interviewed a fellow's name is Richard

1031
00:52:58,790 --> 00:52:53,700
heckler who taught Aikido and meditation

1032
00:53:01,100 --> 00:52:58,800
to the Green Berets and he later taught

1033
00:53:08,260 --> 00:53:01,110
them to the Navy SEALs and Air Force and

1034
00:53:10,670 --> 00:53:08,270
other elite military units and it's now

1035
00:53:13,430 --> 00:53:10,680
it's now much more common in the

1036
00:53:20,630 --> 00:53:13,440
military than you might expect you know

1037
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:20,640
some kind of mindfulness training and it

1038
00:53:26,570 --> 00:53:22,890
you know it can it can definitely be

1039
00:53:32,270 --> 00:53:26,580
done right now we don't seem to have the

1040
00:53:36,140 --> 00:53:32,280
national mood for that to happen but

1041
00:53:38,720 --> 00:53:36,150
that doesn't mean that it can't happen

1042
00:53:40,100 --> 00:53:38,730
in many ways I think anyone working in

1043
00:53:43,130 --> 00:53:40,110
the fields of consciousness and

1044
00:53:47,030 --> 00:53:43,140
spirituality and meditation your work is

1045
00:53:51,380 --> 00:53:47,040
more important than ever when we have a

1046
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:51,390
national mindset that that's going going

1047
00:53:58,250 --> 00:53:55,530
more Mindless every day it seems but you

1048
00:54:00,350 --> 00:53:58,260
don't have to go that way you know if

1049
00:54:04,550 --> 00:54:00,360
you use you stick with what you know

1050
00:54:06,590 --> 00:54:04,560
that works Patrick we are at the top of

1051
00:54:08,570 --> 00:54:06,600
the hour I love doing this show I'm

1052
00:54:11,210 --> 00:54:08,580
thinking about listening audience on her

1053
00:54:13,100 --> 00:54:11,220
request of Dee Dee in the chat room he's

1054
00:54:13,499 --> 00:54:13,110
been on me and on my tail pretty hard

1055
00:54:15,629 --> 00:54:13,509
about the

1056
00:54:17,399 --> 00:54:15,639
family shouts two hours I think in the

1057
00:54:19,199 --> 00:54:17,409
next month or so that is going to happen

1058
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:19,209
that is going to happen on the front of

1059
00:54:23,099 --> 00:54:21,130
the our front of the show not the back

1060
00:54:24,989 --> 00:54:23,109
that being said we're at the top of the

1061
00:54:26,759 --> 00:54:24,999
hour and it flies by fast when I have

1062
00:54:28,079 --> 00:54:26,769
this kind of fun Patrick would you leave

1063
00:54:29,059 --> 00:54:28,089
our listening ones with the final

1064
00:54:38,299 --> 00:54:29,069
thought sir

1065
00:54:45,929 --> 00:54:40,499
forgiveness is the key to strength and

1066
00:54:49,849 --> 00:54:45,939
power it's not a it's not a surrender or

1067
00:54:52,829 --> 00:54:49,859
giving up or caving in or giving in and

1068
00:54:55,049 --> 00:54:52,839
as you said definitely not just letting

1069
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:55,059
yourself or anyone else

1070
00:55:01,349 --> 00:54:57,729
off the hook it's it's really a key to

1071
00:55:02,669 --> 00:55:01,359
power Patrick thank you for being a

1072
00:55:04,019 --> 00:55:02,679
wonderful gifts here soon of light ready

1073
00:55:06,779 --> 00:55:04,029
I really enjoyed my time with you sir

1074
00:55:08,189 --> 00:55:06,789
thanks for the opportunity look forward

1075
00:55:10,949 --> 00:55:08,199
to chatting with you soon everyone mr.

1076
00:55:14,029 --> 00:55:10,959
Patrick Miller D Patrick Miller um you

1077
00:55:16,319 --> 00:55:14,039
can look at the comments on my webpage

1078
00:55:17,819 --> 00:55:16,329
you find out more about him at the

1079
00:55:19,919 --> 00:55:17,829
website let me only pull up his website

1080
00:55:22,799 --> 00:55:19,929
he deserves that's for sure

1081
00:55:26,519 --> 00:55:22,809
the website you can find minutes wwf/e

1082
00:55:29,549 --> 00:55:26,529
Ellis books calm forgiveness excuse me

1083
00:55:32,459 --> 00:55:29,559
famous books calm slash forgive dot

1084
00:55:35,489 --> 00:55:32,469
html' again which triple w that fearless

1085
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ebooks.com slash forgive dot html' and I

1086
00:55:39,359 --> 00:55:37,630
think that's been a link to his book so

1087
00:55:42,870 --> 00:55:39,369
I'm sure his website is fearless books

1088
00:55:46,169 --> 00:55:42,880
calm next week on center of light radio

1089
00:55:49,259 --> 00:55:46,179
with dr. Edie wide and she's gonna be

1090
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:49,269
talking about her crazed book which he

1091
00:55:53,489 --> 00:55:51,130
is that enough pregnant ended you're not

1092
00:55:56,429 --> 00:55:53,499
crazy your awakening two weeks from now

1093
00:55:57,749 --> 00:55:56,439
doctor even Alexander he's popular for

1094
00:56:00,449 --> 00:55:57,759
his book proof of heaven he was a

1095
00:56:02,549 --> 00:56:00,459
neurosurgeon then died into a coma and

1096
00:56:05,819 --> 00:56:02,559
came back and had this most amazing

1097
00:56:07,529 --> 00:56:05,829
story to tell I was lucky to get this

1098
00:56:09,629 --> 00:56:07,539
guy because he's very very busy in the

1099
00:56:12,509 --> 00:56:09,639
field because I'm such an experienced

1100
00:56:15,629 --> 00:56:12,519
also in September this beautiful man

1101
00:56:18,689 --> 00:56:15,639
Swami vo yogi is going to be coming back

1102
00:56:20,759 --> 00:56:18,699
to Memphis and he's granting me another

1103
00:56:22,799 --> 00:56:20,769
interview I can't begin to tell you what

1104
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:22,809
it feels like to be around the presence

1105
00:56:28,349 --> 00:56:26,890
of a God lit man wow it's not some

1106
00:56:31,349 --> 00:56:28,359
to be said it's something to be felt

1107
00:56:32,250 --> 00:56:31,359
I've seen him quite a few times in his

1108
00:56:35,069 --> 00:56:32,260
omniscience

1109
00:56:36,599 --> 00:56:35,079
I have knowing things that there's no

1110
00:56:39,420 --> 00:56:36,609
way he can know and just spit it out

1111
00:56:40,769 --> 00:56:39,430
like it's just nobody business well my

1112
00:56:42,599 --> 00:56:40,779
point being saying that it's not because

1113
00:56:45,359 --> 00:56:42,609
of the bells of Linda with whistles

1114
00:56:47,430 --> 00:56:45,369
about such it's about the fact that such

1115
00:56:49,650 --> 00:56:47,440
divinity is alive and doing the work

1116
00:56:50,940 --> 00:56:49,660
here in this planet today and that kind

1117
00:56:52,799 --> 00:56:50,950
of beacon of light that kind of

1118
00:56:56,549 --> 00:56:52,809
lightning rod when it was about the

1119
00:56:58,950 --> 00:56:56,559
world things begin to change his his

1120
00:57:01,259 --> 00:56:58,960
tour right now is called sealing the

1121
00:57:03,210 --> 00:57:01,269
world by purifying the waters to the

1122
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:03,220
last episode I look forward to seeing

1123
00:57:07,140 --> 00:57:05,650
you Monday night 6 p.m. Eastern Time

1124
00:57:08,579 --> 00:57:07,150
I am sitting in his chairs producting

1125
00:57:10,109 --> 00:57:08,589
the affairs of the heart because my

1126
00:57:12,569 --> 00:57:10,119
heart is in what I do I like helping

1127
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:12,579
people it expands me and my gift in turn

1128
00:57:15,900 --> 00:57:14,650
is to help expand you as we move about

1129
00:57:18,269 --> 00:57:15,910
the world can make this place a

1130
00:57:20,430 --> 00:57:18,279
beautiful place for everyone when you

1131
00:57:22,349 --> 00:57:20,440
lay down at night if nothing to do

1132
00:57:24,420 --> 00:57:22,359
might as well breathe grieve yourself

1133
00:57:26,430 --> 00:57:24,430
into believing you will put to see them

1134
00:57:29,130 --> 00:57:26,440
for your thought you can find yourself

1135
00:57:30,569 --> 00:57:29,140
on a profound deafening silence be still

1136
00:57:32,819 --> 00:57:30,579
and know that I am God as a piece of

1137
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:32,829
computer reporter where you'll find

1138
00:57:40,190 --> 00:57:34,210
yourself and you find yourself in that

1139
00:57:41,150 --> 00:57:40,200
silence the universe becomes yours p7

1140
00:58:11,880 --> 00:57:41,160
yep

1141
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